Archive for January, 2013

Welp, my re-arrival to the 1-3-1 Sports team has come a day early. Lucky you.

I was just working on some Super Bowl musings (Was my original plan of re-arriving) when I stumbled across the quote, “Titus Young can’t be traded,” or something like that. Don’t quote me. It was a tweet from Dave Birkett, go look it up for yourself if you need all of the facts. (@davebirkett) Man, I am a journalistic integrity machine.

Anyways, I read that and thought, “Hm. I’ve been hearing this a lot lately, and I don’t think I agree with it.” So, I decided to sort of analyze this statement from a statistical standpoint. (I get it, it’s the off field stuff. I’ll get there.)

The theory was simple enough, a 7th round draft pick is presumably the least valuable player (or soon to be player) that Titus Young could be traded for. An average 7th round pick is worth about nine points according to the NFL Draft Point Value Chart. (Pictured below) I realize no-name practice players could be considered less valuable than 7th round picks, and there could be an argument there, but it would be arguing over semantics at that point.

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(neat point chart!)

So, the common thought about Titus Young is that he is untradeable and any value he had was squashed to bits when he went on his Twitter and dared the Lions to cut him. (I wish I could link to this, but I can’t figure it out on this fancy new system we’re using.) By saying this (Young is untradeable) people are saying they would rather draft a player in the 7th round than have Titus Young on their team. It is a fair statement to make, and most people probably agree with it because nobody wants a diva receiver who seems to make more trouble than plays. I, (again) lucky for you, am here to argue that point.

To start I went back and looked at the 7th round (including all compensatory picks) of the last two drafts and I picked out all of the receivers that were taken and what their career stats were. Β Next, I looked up Titus Young’s career stats and I compared them. The results for this were as follows.

2012 NFL Draft – Five receivers taken in the 7th round. 15 catches for 195 yards.

2011 NFL Draft – Four receivers taken in the 7th round. 19 catches for 215 yards and one touchdown.

7th round receivers total – 34 catches for 410 yards and one touchdown.

Titus Young Sr. (lol…sr.) – 81 catches for 990 yards and ten touchdowns.

Obviously, the numbers aren’t even close, and I didn’t expect them to be. I also don’t think this a totally fair data set either. Young was a 2nd round pick so a pretty high level of production is expected. To counter this I added another draft.

2010 NFL draft – Three receivers taken in the 7th round. 20 catches for 208 yards. I must also note that Marc Mariani was taken in the 7th round of this draft and has three career return touchdowns for Tennessee.

New 7th rounders total – 54 catches 618 yards and four total touchdowns, three of which came from one guy on punt/kick returns.

Young’s unchanged totals – 81 catches for 990 yards and ten touchdowns

Still. Not. Close.

I then decided I would do this until the 7th round players actually passed Young’s numbers. It didn’t take long, because next up was the 2009 NFL draft, which I am now declaring the greatest 7th round for receivers ever. Eight receivers were taken in the round, highlighted by Julian Edelman and Sammie Stroughter (Don’t google him, he’s on Tampa Bay). Edelman’s career numbers (four seasons) are 69 catches for 714 yards and four touchdowns. He also does a good bit of returning and has three career return touchdowns. Stroughter came in with a 60-639-1 line, which, you know, isn’t really awful. The other six receivers combined for 39 catches for about 500 yards and two touchdowns. This has all been done over four seasons, mind you.

So, it’s pretty safe to say that Edelman is the best 7th round receiver in this group and in four seasons he isn’t really close to the numbers Young put up in a season and a half. Outside of Edelman only Stroughter and Mariani have provided much of anything to their teams. Three total players out of the twenty that were picked. 15%.

We’re almost there.

“Okay, so Young has better numbers than a bumbling group of 7th rounders, what about the off the field stuff? That is the root of all of this.”

Yes, he is a diva and a child, there’s no denying that. But he can (and for his sake, hopefully will) grow up. An organization with a “good locker room” and strong veteran presence could be really great for Young (Think of what Ray Lewis and Anquan Boldin would have done to him this season). Obviously this would be an ideal situation for Young to land in.

Let’s say he doesn’t go to a good place and he continues on the same path he has for his first two seasons. Even with all of his off field issues,Β Young played in 26 of his first 32 games, or 81%. So he was unavailable and useless 19% of the time. Remember that group of 7th round guys? Well seven of those 20 had/have zero career offensive statistics. 35%. Titus got you nothing 19% of the time, 7th round receivers got you nothing 35% of the time and that’s not including the large chunk of players with super minimal production (one career catch, three career catches, etc.) Even with all of his off the field issues, he is way more reliable than your average 7th round receiver.

So, what’s the point of all this? Titus Young smashes the 7th rounders in stats, and while I expected their to be a very sizable gap between the two, I didn’t realize quite how big it would be. Three full rounds of receivers didn’t come close to Young’s numbers, so from that standpoint it would make sense to give up three seventh round picks for Titus Young. Hardly “untradeable”.

His off the field issues make him a tough sell, but the numbers (they never lie right?) show that he is almost two times more reliable to be on the field producing than a 7th round receiver is. If you would have a problem paying 2nd round money for a risk, then I totally understand, but he could be worth the risk for a bold GM out there.

Well I was going to wrap everything up and make a final point, but I just realized I researched and wrote a way too long piece for the sole purpose of arguing that Titus Young has no value as trade bait, because I got annoyed by a few quotes by irresponsible commenters. I let the words of others get to me and I’m truly disappointed in myself. I don’t even like Titus Young. What the hell?

Here’s my new final point. Titus Young + change of scenery = good. 7th round draft pick = bad. I would give up a 7th round pick for him and I would have done it yesterday.

Bye.

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Author: Burt Reynolds, or something


PROJECTED SEEDING

The 1 Seeds

Michigan, Kansas, Duke, Florida

The 2 Seeds

Syracuse, Arizona,Β Indiana, Gonzaga

The 3 Seeds

Louisville, Michigan State, New Mexico,Β Miami (FL)

The 4 Seeds

Oregon, NC State,Β Butler,Β Ohio State

The 5 Seeds

Minnesota,Β Cincinnati, Creighton, Wichita State

The 6 Seeds

UNLV,Β UCLA,Β Kansas State, Marquette

The 7 Seeds

Missouri,Β Mississippi, San Diego State, Pittsburgh

The 8 Seeds

Notre Dame, VCU, Georgetown, Baylor

The 9 Seeds

Wisconsin, North Carolina, Colorado State,Β Oklahoma

The 10 Seeds

Illinois,Β Colorado, Memphis,Β Oklahoma State

The 11 Seeds

Wyoming,Β Kentucky, Belmont, Southern Miss

The 12 Seeds

Middle Tennessee, Iowa State, Arizona State, St. Mary’s (CA), Temple, La Salle

The 13 Seeds

Bucknell, Louisiana Tech, Akron,Β Stephen F. Austin

The 14 Seeds

North Dakota State, Valparaiso,Β Davidson, Harvard

The 15 Seeds

Long Beach State, Montana,Β Stony Brook, Northeastern

The 16 Seeds

Niagara, Bryant,Β Southern,Β Mercer, Charleston Southern, Norfolk State

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BUBBLE ACTION

Last Four In

Arizona State, St. Mary’s (CA), Temple, La Salle

First Four Out

Maryland, BYU, Boise State, Saint Louis

Next Four Out

Villanova, Charlotte, Iowa, Alabama

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CONFERENCE BREAKDOWN

Big Ten (7), Big East (7), Big 12 (6), MWC (5),Β Pac-12 (5),Β ACC (4),Β SEC (4), A-10 (4), WCC (2),Β MVC (2), C-USA (2)

America East – Stony Brook

ACCΒ – Duke, Miami (FL),Β NC State,Β North Carolina

Atlantic SunΒ – Mercer

Atlantic 10 – Butler, VCU, Temple, La Salle

Big East – Syracuse, Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, Pittsburgh,Β Notre Dame, Georgetown

Big Sky – Montana

Big South – Charleston Southern

Big Ten – Michigan, Indiana, Michigan State,Β Ohio State, Minnesota,Β Wisconsin,Β Illinois

Big 12 – Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma,Β Baylor,Β Oklahoma State, Iowa State

Big West – Long Beach State

Colonial – Northeastern

Conference USA – Memphis, Southern Miss

Horizon – Valparaiso

Ivy – Harvard

MAAC – Niagara

MAC – Akron

MEAC – Norfolk State

MVC – Creighton, Wichita State

MWC – New Mexico, UNLV, San Diego State, Colorado State,Β Wyoming

Northeast – Bryant

Ohio Valley – Belmont

Pac-12 – Arizona, Oregon, UCLA,Β Colorado, Arizona State

Patriot – Bucknell

SEC – Florida, Missouri, Mississippi,Β Kentucky

Southern – Davidson

Southland – Stephen F. Austin

Summit – North Dakota State

Sun Belt – Middle Tennessee

SWAC – Southern

WAC – Louisiana Tech

WCC – Gonzaga, St. Mary’s (CA)

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THE BRACKET:
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PROJECTED SEEDING

The 1 Seeds

Duke, Michigan, Syracuse,Β Kansas

The 2 Seeds

Arizona,Β Indiana, Louisville,Β Florida

The 3 Seeds

Gonzaga, Minnesota, Creighton, New Mexico

The 4 Seeds

Michigan State, NC State,Β Cincinnati,Β Butler

The 5 Seeds

Missouri, Ohio State, Notre Dame, UNLV

The 6 Seeds

Kansas State,Β Wichita State,Β Miami (FL), Oregon

The 7 Seeds

VCU, San Diego State, Illinois,Β Oklahoma State

The 8 Seeds

Marquette, UCLA, Oklahoma, Colorado

The 9 Seeds

North Carolina, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Georgetown

The 10 Seeds

Wyoming,Β Mississippi,Β Baylor,Β Pittsburgh

The 11 Seeds

Memphis, Temple, Colorado State, Iowa State

The 12 Seeds

BYU, Southern Miss, Boise State,Β Iowa, Belmont, Middle Tennessee

The 13 Seeds

Bucknell, Louisiana Tech, Stephen F. Austin,Β North Dakota State

The 14 Seeds

Akron, Davidson, Valparaiso, Weber State

The 15 Seeds

Long Beach State, Harvard, Iona,Β Northeastern

The 16 Seeds

Vermont, Southern,Β Mercer, Bryant, Charleston Southern, Norfolk State

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BUBBLE ACTION

Last Four In

BYU, Southern Miss, Boise State,Β Iowa

First Four Out

Maryland, St. Mary’s (CA), Saint Louis, Texas A&M

Next Four Out

Rutgers, Arizona State, Charlotte, La Salle

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CONFERENCE BREAKDOWN

Big Ten (8), Big East (7), Big 12 (6), MWC (6),Β ACC (4), Pac-12 (4),Β SEC (4), A-10 (3), WCC (2),Β MVC (2), C-USA (2)

America East – Vermont

ACCΒ – Duke, NC State, Miami (FL),Β North Carolina

Atlantic SunΒ – Mercer

Atlantic 10 – Butler, VCU, Temple

Big East – Syracuse, Louisville, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, Marquette, Georgetown, Pittsburgh

Big Sky – Weber State

Big South – Charleston Southern

Big Ten – Michigan, Indiana,Β Minnesota, Michigan State,Β Ohio State, Illinois, Wisconsin

Big 12 – Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma,Β Baylor, Iowa State

Big West – Long Beach State

Colonial – Northeastern

Conference USA – Memphis, Southern Miss

Horizon – Valparaiso

Ivy – Harvard

MAAC – Iona

MAC – Akron

MEAC – Norfolk State

MVC – Creighton, Wichita State

MWC – New Mexico, UNLV, San Diego State, Wyoming, Colorado State, Boise State

Northeast – Bryant

Ohio Valley – Belmont

Pac-12 – Arizona, Oregon, UCLA,Β Colorado

Patriot – Bucknell

SEC – Florida, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi

Southern – Davidson

Southland – Stephen F. Austin

Summit – North Dakota State

Sun Belt – Middle Tennessee

SWAC – Southern

WAC – Louisiana Tech

WCC – Gonzaga, BYU

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THE BRACKET:
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Β Bracket 1-20-13

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PROJECTED SEEDING

The 1 Seeds

Duke, Louisville, Indiana, Kansas

The 2 Seeds

Michigan, Syracuse, Arizona, Gonzaga

The 3 Seeds

Florida, NC State,Β Β Minnesota, Creighton

The 4 Seeds

New Mexico, Ohio State, Cincinnati, Missouri

The 5 Seeds

Butler, Michigan State, UNLV, Notre Dame

The 6 Seeds

Illinois,Β Wichita State, Oklahoma State, San Diego State

The 7 Seeds

Miami (FL), VCU, Marquette,Β Kansas State

The 8 Seeds

UCLA, Oklahoma, Colorado, Oregon

The 9 Seeds

North Carolina, Wyoming, Kentucky, Georgetown

The 10 Seeds

Baylor, Memphis, Wisconsin,Β Temple

The 11 Seeds

BYU, Pittsburgh, Maryland, Mississippi

The 12 Seeds

Colorado State,Β Boise State, Arizona State,Β Texas A&M, Β Belmont, Middle Tennessee

The 13 Seeds

Bucknell, North Dakota State, Β Akron, Utah State

The 14 Seeds

Davidson, Stephen F. Austin, Weber State,Β Iona

The 15 Seeds

Long Beach State, Harvard, Detroit, Northeastern

The 16 Seeds

Stony Brook, Southern,Β Florida Gulf Coast, Bryant, Charleston Southern, Norfolk State

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BUBBLE ACTION

Last Four In

Colorado State,Β Boise State,Β Arizona State, Texas A&M

First Four Out

Iowa State, Saint Louis, Massachusetts,Β Rutgers

Next Four Out

Florida State, Southern Miss, Charlotte, La Salle

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CONFERENCE BREAKDOWN

Big East (7), Big Ten (7), MWC (6),Β Big 12 (5), ACC (5), Pac-12 (5),Β SEC (5), A-10 (3), WCC (2),Β MVC (2)

America East – Stony Brook

ACCΒ – Duke, NC State, Miami (FL),Β North Carolina, Maryland

Atlantic SunΒ – Florida Gulf Coast

Atlantic 10 – Butler, VCU, Temple

Big East – Louisville, Syracuse, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, Marquette, Georgetown, Pittsburgh

Big Sky – Weber State

Big South – Charleston Southern

Big Ten – Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio State, Michigan State, Illinois, Wisconsin

Big 12 – Kansas, Oklahoma State,Β Kansas State, Oklahoma,Β Baylor

Big West – Long Beach State

Colonial – Northeastern

Conference USA – Memphis

Horizon – Detroit

Ivy – Harvard

MAAC – Iona

MAC – Akron

MEAC – Norfolk State

MVC – Creighton, Wichita State

MWC – New Mexico, UNLV, San Diego State, Wyoming, Colorado State, Boise State

Northeast – Bryant

Ohio Valley – Belmont

Pac-12 – Arizona, UCLA, Colorado,Β Oregon, Arizona State

Patriot – Bucknell

SEC – Florida, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi, Texas A&M

Southern – Davidson

Southland – Stephen F. Austin

Summit – North Dakota State

Sun Belt – Middle Tennessee

SWAC – Southern

WAC – Utah State

WCC – Gonzaga, BYU

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THE BRACKET:
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Β Bracket 1-13-13

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PROJECTED SEEDING

The 1 Seeds

Duke, Arizona, Michigan, Louisville

The 2 Seeds

Indiana, Syracuse, Kansas, Gonzaga

The 3 Seeds

Florida, Minnesota, Creighton, NC State

The 4 Seeds

Illinois, Cincinnati, Missouri, New Mexico

The 5 Seeds

Ohio State, UNLV, Butler, Michigan State

The 6 Seeds

Oklahoma State, Wichita State, Colorado, Notre Dame

The 7 Seeds

North Carolina, Miami (FL), VCU, San Diego State

The 8 Seeds

Marquette, Kansas State, Wyoming, Kentucky

The 9 Seeds

Georgetown, Temple, Oklahoma, UCLA

The 10 Seeds

Baylor,Β Pittsburgh,Β Maryland, Oregon

The 11 Seeds

Memphis, California,Β Colorado State, BYU

The 12 Seeds

Mississippi,Β Tennessee, Belmont, Boise State,Β Middle Tennessee, Murray State

The 13 Seeds

Bucknell, North Dakota State, Illinois-Chicago, George Mason

The 14 Seeds

Utah State, Akron, Davidson, Canisius

The 15 Seeds

Harvard,Β Stephen F. Austin, Weber State, Stony Brook

The 16 Seeds

Southern, Florida Gulf Coast, Wagner, UNC-Asheville, Cal Poly, Norfolk State

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BUBBLE ACTION

Last Four In

Mississippi,Β Tennessee, Belmont, Boise State

First Four Out

Massachusetts,Β Wisconsin, Saint Louis, Iowa State

Next Four Out

Texas A&M,Β Florida State, La Salle, Alabama

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CONFERENCE BREAKDOWN

Big East (7), Big Ten (6), MWC (6),Β Big 12 (5), ACC (5), Pac-12 (5),Β SEC (5), A-10 (3), WCC (2),Β MVC (2), OVC (2)

America East – Stony Brook

ACCΒ – Duke, NC State, North Carolina, Miami (FL), Maryland

Atlantic SunΒ – Florida Gulf Coast

Atlantic 10 – Butler, VCU, Temple

Big East – Louisville, Syracuse, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, Marquette, Georgetown, Pittsburgh

Big Sky – Weber State

Big South – UNC-Asheville

Big Ten – Michigan, Indiana, Minnesota, Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan State

Big 12 – Kansas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Baylor

Big West – Cal Poly

Colonial – George Mason

Conference USA – Memphis

Horizon – Illinois-Chicago

Ivy – Harvard

MAAC – Canisius

MAC – Akron

MEAC – Norfolk State

MVC – Creighton, Wichita State

MWC – New Mexico, UNLV, San Diego State, Wyoming, Colorado State, Boise State

Northeast – Wagner

Ohio Valley – Murray State, Belmont

Pac-12 – Arizona, Colorado, UCLA, Oregon, California

Patriot – Bucknell

SEC – Florida, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee

Southern – Davidson

Southland – Stephen F. Austin

Summit – North Dakota State

Sun Belt – Middle Tennessee

SWAC – Southern

WAC – Utah State

WCC – Gonzaga, BYU

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THE BRACKET:
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Β Bracket 1-6-13

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